# Son of General Inspiration Thread

**URL:** <https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [November 18, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29 "2018-11-18T18:11:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/dave/32/6344_2.png) [@Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/41 "2018-12-24T22:53:00Z")

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Yup. Or, more accurately, was the “first pitch” for what eventually became JQ. H-B wanted to do a Jack Armstrong cartoon (since _Doctor No_ had inspired an adventure/spy craze in the US), did some test footage (including the famous escaping-from-Zulu-warriors footage in the JQ end titles\*), but ran into problems getting rights to the character. So it was retooled (with a bit of _Terry and the Pirates_ thrown in) into _Jonny Quest._

Good description [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFB0urIZvXE).

\* The Zulu footage was never used in the actual JQ, which is probably just as well, even if there were also racially problematic depictions of “Pygmies” and Amazon tribesmen (and Chinese, and pretty much every other non-European type they ran into, though both Germans and Russians don"t come off particularly well, either). But that’s why the figures in the “Q-disc” in the JQ end titles don’t actually look like the JQ characters.

 ![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/9f1e1279be053d88b6e68bcde5a57ed0457f53cf.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/dave/32/6344_2.png) [@Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/42 "2018-12-25T20:34:05Z")

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@fragolakat found this mug and gave it to me for Christmas.

 ![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/b2cbf794b9e5717ce91c3ea32e4356c7a2fce422.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/047989aee2298e41007b1d0e930566cbb1851a29.jpeg)

It, and he, are awesome.

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**Author:** ![insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/insomn14/32/5949_2.png) [@insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/insomn14)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 5:25am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/43 "2018-12-26T05:25:46Z")

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So I picked up the new Mutants and Masterminds Basic Hero’s Handbook and wouldn’t you know I was very surprised to find evil alternate universe Princess Radiance among the villains.

 ![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/a883fd67ef80a17831e288e2bc6973807c8b767a.jpeg)  
While not an accurate description when I read the character’s backstory or description of their powers, I did find it visually very similar to what I’d imagined as a Summer outfit back in the butterfly phase.

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/44 "2018-12-26T05:29:15Z")

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Don’t worry, Summer will bring her round to the side of love and goodness. And yeh, it looks great. And I still like your art better.

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**Author:** ![Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/dave/32/6344_2.png) [@Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/45 "2018-12-26T19:04:45Z")

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![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/809fb188b19d8dd4074a44fce5d5d0e4bb9ad5eb.jpeg)

Just as we ended up in the future trying to fix the AltFuture timeline, the Menagerie Prime timeline is certainly some AltUtopia timeline’s project to fix (or be threatened by).

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/46 "2018-12-26T19:07:13Z")

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Reminds me of this scene:

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**Author:** ![Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/dave/32/6344_2.png) [@Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/47 "2018-12-29T05:32:02Z")

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So @Margie requested some Archaeologist Adventurer media input …

![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/fd0c4eb61892fe25d432b8ef2c6e511465f0e4d8.gif)

[https://media.giphy.com/media/9QAU5eJ4QQ5Y4/giphy.gif(image larger than 4096KB)](https://media.giphy.com/media/9QAU5eJ4QQ5Y4/giphy.gif)
  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/136c58cf07f0d02ba22268fc61dbccf4f7f5e338.gif) ](https://i2.wp.com/roomescapeartist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Indiana-Jones-Map-Room.gif)  
 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/ffe338234321ee134924fe089ed6a47c4c7f24c3.gif)  
 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/5ca40bfb6f4adf352b7fbffa0d559dd95b61ba38.gif)

![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/6ebbecb0749a9305b29706442ceda40b2ab536f0.gif)

And @fragolakat recommended maybe some Space Smuggler fiction …

[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/9d00a835f7ddfd113a2f3fad3d7bf4d08a244a6e.gif) ](http://www.moreteawesley.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/firefly_impossible2.gif)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/91cf1a438cb38938c285da3c2801005ec30446a1.gif) ](https://i.gifer.com/JUDi.gif)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/fa4e7bb8ae28f7c4c910b257b857027474d4b250.gif) ](https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/firefly-serenity-dinosaur-fight-2.gif?w=650)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/7878114baee5757e14f2fae4bf31171ebe55cb83.gif) ](https://media.giphy.com/media/cEcLFGH0ceWVW/giphy.gif)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/4379ed04abcf78aa0047e16080b8c4937532a20a.gif) ](https://media1.tenor.com/images/57cd02fd13cd5f940ed28673e18d0b04/tenor.gif?itemid=3301810)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/3cef28ddc1899b07aba94fbf31b4963bc68a84f5.gif) ](http://media.tumblr.com/25c1ec83237d28da427f496ed8d0cee0/tumblr_inline_mpw6n30uEN1qz4rgp.gif)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/e01d73bb38a71f75a6b5c0a4f0295c1abc9e5fd1.gif) ](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DistantInstructiveAyeaye-small.gif)  
[![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/9ce49b93104222725ff393692025c74e18cc9ec2.gif) ](https://mtv.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:file:http:shared:mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/flying-1443471064.gif?quality=.8&height=230&width=500)

All for the purpose of game prep, mind you.

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/48 "2018-12-29T05:52:58Z")

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[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdventurerArchaeologist](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AdventurerArchaeologist) is the checklist for two-fisted archaeologist characters. Highlights from that page:

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/02690a942690d6dba4b252e439e012691b55d72a.png)

The whole crew from “Atlantis: The Lost Empire”

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/229be98195cf0b7ad73290bf3fa27513b11d8132.jpeg)

Captain Picard, “ST:TNG”

![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/da05e5a439241b884fdbd455e0b74948ba252a9c.jpeg)

River Song, “Doctor Who”

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/196218d13d724e402b23c788b02ee0321728ecaf.jpeg)

[Julian Albert](https://arrow.fandom.com/wiki/Julian_Albert), “The Flash”

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/53679ec399878dae8f8e1e27f74f6b65a125c417.png)

Liara T’Soni, “Mass Effect” (also a powerful biotic)

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**Author:** ![Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/dave/32/6344_2.png) [@Dave](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/Dave)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 6:54am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/49 "2018-12-29T06:54:12Z")

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Space Rogue Adventure Critical Analysis!

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 7:20am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/50 "2018-12-29T07:20:16Z")

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What do space adventurer archaeologists do, where do they hang out, and what do they mess with?

![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/8f351e43c3b43920754e1ee65ec8d679424153f3.jpeg)

Sentient moon bases (“[Dallos](http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/forgotten-anime-43-dallos-1983/)”), also [here](https://www.crunchyroll.com/dallos/episode-4-episode-4-679851) at about 7 minutes in. Notable that about 2 minutes after the laser barrage starts, Earth forces back off as you hear the moon base itself _roaring_.

Precursor information archives (“Mass Effect”)

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/aceca003990ec4fdf585c2c857dcbf6ac3a0fb64.jpeg)

Mysterious installations (“Forbidden Planet”)

Transportation networks (“Stargate”)

![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/e32d453549da2410979cb6c9f4646ae402c89ac1.png)

Weapon systems (“Metroid”). The suit Samus wears is the product of [Chozo](https://metroid.fandom.com/wiki/Chozo) tech, who weren’t quite _long_ gone Precursors but who definitely left a lot of interesting ruins laying around.

 ![](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/18f8f5c67cc3faf8b5d5ef3894026b93dd94a5a6.png)

Religious sites (“Star Wars: Jedi Knight”). The Valley of the Jedi is considered “strong with the Force” in Star Wars terms and is a strategic resource in Jedi-Sith conflicts.

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**Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 6:45pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/51 "2018-12-29T18:45:14Z")

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This may not be the media inspiration you’re looking for, but I found these quotes inspiring. From [here](http://dankoboldt.com/archaeology-in-sff/):

> Archaeology is more about the story that can be derived from the object and the context in which it was found.

and:

> Archaeology has an ethical dimension that is often neglected in storytelling in favour of the artefact. Digs are often culturally sensitive, especially around the exhumation of human remains and artefacts of religious or spiritual significance (which for some cultures is everything). Any interference with the past raises issues.

So basically, there’s room for a scifi archaeologist character who isn’t just being chased by a horde of faceless natives and we’re rooting for him rather than them - an adventurer archaeologist character could be a champion of such people instead, telling the story of their civilization and working with them in some kind of resistance effort (though this is more of a Firedrake story), or understanding the significance of something the crew is asked to smuggle, and facing the moral choice of whether to do it (e.g. Firefly’s “[The Train Job](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROcjrGL9_w)”).

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**Author:** ![insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/insomn14/32/5949_2.png) [@insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/insomn14)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 8:20am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/52 "2018-12-30T08:20:43Z")

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> [@garrett](#):
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> So basically, there’s room for a scifi archaeologist character who isn’t just being chased by a horde of faceless natives and we’re rooting for him rather than them - an adventurer archaeologist character could be a champion of such people instead

Apparently this is the plot of Netflix’s Carmen Sandiego. Given the quality of a lot of their animation, I’d at least give the first episode a watch with this sort of description:

> [@](#):
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> …the new Carmen Sandiego show frames Carmen as a modern day Robin Hood, basically taking stolen artifacts and giving them back to the peoples who rightfully own them.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/53 "2018-12-31T20:27:06Z")

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I have no idea what’s going on in this music video at all, and it’s glorious. Kung fu cowboys, blaster six-shooters, a holographic band, and more.

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2019, 10:47am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/54 "2019-01-01T10:47:43Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/1079776956844068864>

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**Author:** ![garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/garrett/32/3_2.png) [@garrett](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/garrett)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/55 "2019-01-12T00:12:41Z")

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> **[The City of Infinite Ruin](https://falsemachine.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-city-of-infinite-ruin.html)**
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> From the outside the City of Infinite Ruin looks a little like Constantinople. Its walls are high and strong and roughly circular and a cha...

Life in an urban singularity. Definitely not your typical campaign city.

> **[ALL THESE CONCEPTS ARE FORBIDDEN](https://falsemachine.blogspot.com/2019/01/all-these-concepts-are-forbidden.html)**
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> Adam Stone asked for something to do with the City of Infinite Ruin . (I think. Hope I wrote that one down right.) "That which must be...

More from the same idea, a fantastical shopping list of weird and cool ideas.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/56 "2019-01-12T00:38:59Z")

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More synthwave music from NewRetroWave, catchy by itself, but with a video that tells a specific story. Watch to the end, and see what you think.

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**Author:** ![insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/user_avatar/forum.menagerie.team/insomn14/32/5949_2.png) [@insomn14](https://forum.menagerie.team/u/insomn14)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/57 "2019-01-12T20:26:33Z")

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It would figure that once we finished up our Masks game, someone would make a [new Masks character sheet](https://github.com/EtoileLion/Roll20-Masks) that includes all the new playbooks (and a lot of nice quality-of-life upgrades).

 ![masks4](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/86ef1f470e9007a9fa3689b47a66e0bd43b773bc.png)  
 ![masks3](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/e7085106f42985e67cdf75a4de8d6c0eb5b18e53.png)  
 ![masks2](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/90a2ff8b90a7410e9da81e952df475ea0f05b53e.png)  
 ![masks1](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/d0db1ae457c72417d846c40f222d250d694c0a38.png)  
We’ll need to remember this when we come back to Masks some day.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/58 "2019-01-16T06:21:15Z")

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For lack of anyplace better to put it …

 ![image](https://forum-menagerie-team-assets.sfo2.digitaloceanspaces.com/original/1X/24a26490aea2c862461f9259a236da7e901e9437.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 6:26am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/59 "2019-01-16T06:26:21Z")

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Czech yourself before you wreck yourself

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2019, 7:50am UTC](https://forum.menagerie.team/t/son-of-general-inspiration-thread/29/60 "2019-01-16T07:50:15Z")

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Also stop calling them revenants no matter what type of undead they are, that’s wightwashing.

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