HHL Rumors [Background] [Prep]

I think.you mean https://youtu.be/PqCt54Wx2e0

author: Bill G.
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Okay, last suggested power, for the HHL member that’s off the charts.

Transcendent is a tulpa - a psychic projection, with its own free will and consciousness. While individual human mystics and psychics have produced relatively weak tulpa on their own, Transcendent is the tulpa of an entire alien civilization, with a corresponding power level. They are a combination first-contact space probe and ambassador. They have been on Earth their whole existence, and socialized as a human being, but they know who and what they are as well.

From time to time, different factions within that civilization become dominant, advocating violence or conquest, and Transcendent turns evil. Other times, the aliens lose interest in their exploration mission, or must turn their attention to some more crucial issue, and Transcendent’s power fluctuates. But it’s also true that the alien attitude toward Earth and its people is influenced by how people treat their creation. By being Transcendent’s friend, comrade, and support, individual people have a chance to create a lasting positive relationship with a whole other species.

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As a general note for all these characters, maybe nobody else knows what their real power is. Hecate, for example, has no motive to tell other people “yeah I get my best intel from an evil version of me who’s oppressing a whole dimension a few doors down”. Nobody might understand what really powers Big T, just whether or not we can stop them if they flip out again. So having powers posted here does not imply that they’re public record, or known to the PCs.

author: Bill G.
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Bill G. said:

As written, three characters have powers that could detect the switch immediately to soonish: Vigil (be everywhere or anywhere), Hecate (this dimension’s specific power was left unstated but telepathy is on the table), and Tatanka (may have psi other than just psychometry). Notably they are all secondary characters, not the influencers, and all might have very different views on what the body swaps mean.

Well…

“Secondary or less-well-known-to-the-public” isn’t the same as as ‘secondary within the team dynamics.’ In some cases, the a-listers are a-listers because of what they’ve done, not necessarily what they do right now. Or they’re the flashy, obviously powerful ones that sell action figures. What Harry would know:

  • Golem doesn’t do a lot of heroing anymore, unless it’s an all-hands on deck sort of deal.

  • Nautilus … prefers to work alone.

  • Oya has teamed up with Harry’s mom several times, his dad exactly once, and it did not go well. She often works with just a few other members of the team, and is powerful enough people don’t ignore her in meetings, but doesn’t have… friends, as such, on the team. Full disclosure: I’m modeling her team dynamics off “Black Panther is currently ‘on’ the Avengers… until he decides not to be” sort of thing.

  • Transcendent - has been a member of the HHL since forever, but half the time it feels like it’s as much for it to watch us and us to watch it as anything.

  • Blackbird - does a lot of the teams day-to-day heavy lifting, but little publicity related stuff.

  • Guardian - the opposite.

  • Hecate - the sharpest, if not loudest voice in team meetings. Once an absolute b-lister, but gained tremendous leverage as the sole voice on magical theory after the team lost the Magus when Everard took over that mantle. The only member of the league that Harry’s dad has repeatedly advised him to steer away from, with no joking.

  • Paladin - Dad: “Well… he sells a lot of toys.” - always involved in public league throw-downs, and popular with the press and public, but isn’t allowed to do interviews.

  • Phantasm - stays quiet most of the time. Tends to follow the lead of Tempest and, more and more, Sigrun.

  • Sigrun the Valkyrie - does the lion’s share of the day-to-day work of running the League, a job that used to be all Nautilus and Golem. Would have more sway in the meetings, if not for Hecate, who blocks her on basically everything. (Hecate only ever shows up for ‘all hands on deck’ fights and rescues, so they rarely interact, day to day.)

  • Tatanka - never around the base, 33% at meetings, but 100% reliable when called on for ‘the work.’ A-10’s uncle.

  • Vigil - no one argues with Vigil. “It’s not fun losing a debate to a grainy vhs tape and a stack of telegrams from 1902.”

author: Doyce T.
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Doyce T. said:

  • Vigil - no one argues with Vigil. “It’s not fun losing a debate to a grainy vhs tape and a stack of telegrams from 1920.”

:smiley:

author: Mike
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This is great stuff. I hope we can keep track (albeit we’re a bit distracted at the moment).

author: *** Dave H.
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I’m mostly getting it down for myself as much as anyone, so it informs how I play folks. Not everyone will be at the tower this time, and not all them are going to be super-involved in every conversation, so hopefully it’ll work out.

author: Doyce T.
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Doyce T. said:

“Secondary or less-well-known-to-the-public” isn’t the same as as ‘secondary within the team dynamics.’ In some cases, the a-listers are a-listers because of what they’ve done, not necessarily what they do right now. Or they’re the flashy, obviously powerful ones that sell action figures. What Harry would know:

Yeah, I can unpack secondary vs. influencing a bit. “Does Adam belong with this team” was on the table already, and adults might also decide they didn’t like how Leo led his merry band to HAI to shut the place down - among other stuff. There’s a continuum of responses to that, from muscling the team directly, to telling AEGIS to revoke whatever we have that makes us “official”, to spreading rumors.

If the Gales (for example) came out and said “yyyyeah, Menagerie, we’re not feelin’ it”, I imagine that would have more impact than if Hecate (for example) said “Jason Quill is a bad influence!” In the latter case, people might be like “yeah you’re just bitter about his old man” and be less inclined to listen. That’s the influence I’m concerned with.

author: Bill G.
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Yup. “Ghost Girl” is going to be positively grim in “her” intensity in all this.

author: *** Dave H.
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As a general note for all these characters, maybe nobody else knows what their real power is. Hecate, for example, has no motive to tell other people “yeah I get my best intel from an evil version of me who’s oppressing a whole dimension a few doors down”. Nobody might understand what really powers Big T, just whether or not we can stop them if they flip out again. So having powers posted here does not imply that they’re public record, or known to the PCs.

That should go without saying … but that probably means it should be said.

author: *** Dave H.
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I have updated the wiki page with the above.

author: *** Dave H.
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I felt I should say it anyway, because I’m only making suggestions that Doyce is going to adopt, ignore, or modify, and even if he says “I like that power set”, that’s not necessarily followed by “and so I’m using it”. :slight_smile: For our purposes, their powers are secondary to their attitudes, but it still might be useful (for example) to understand how Hecate’s powers interacted with GG’s, or whatever, in case one of the HHL decided to try and Pierce our Masks with their abilities.

author: Bill G.
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I’m only making suggestions that Doyce is going to adopt, ignore, or modify, and even if he says “I like that power set”, that’s not necessarily followed by “and so I’m using it”. :slight_smile:

But … but … it’s in the wiki now! It must be true!

(“Hecate has craftily spread rumors that she draws her powers from 27 alternative versions of herself …”)

author: *** Dave H.
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She actually gains her powers by consuming souls only lightly tethered to unfamiliar bodies.

author: Doyce T.
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Doyce T. said:

She actually gains her powers by consuming souls only lightly tethered to unfamiliar bodies.

Leo: “You try it, I’ll give you the worst case of heartburn you ever had, let’s go.”

author: Bill G.
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author: *** Dave H.
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